diff --git a/plugins/scaffolder-backend-module-cookiecutter/src/actions/fetch/cookiecutter.test.ts b/plugins/scaffolder-backend-module-cookiecutter/src/actions/fetch/cookiecutter.test.ts
index bb47f3e19a..ce8a34a6ed 100644
--- a/plugins/scaffolder-backend-module-cookiecutter/src/actions/fetch/cookiecutter.test.ts
+++ b/plugins/scaffolder-backend-module-cookiecutter/src/actions/fetch/cookiecutter.test.ts
@@ -23,7 +23,7 @@ import type { ActionContext } from '@backstage/plugin-scaffolder-node';
 import { createMockActionContext } from '@backstage/plugin-scaffolder-node-test-utils';
 import { JsonObject } from '@backstage/types';
 import { join } from 'path';
-import { Logger } from 'winston';
+import { Writable } from 'stream';
 import { createFetchCookiecutterAction } from './cookiecutter';
 
 const executeShellCommand = jest.fn();
@@ -168,7 +168,7 @@ describe('fetch:cookiecutter', () => {
           join(mockTmpDir, 'template'),
           '--verbose',
         ],
-        logger: expect.any(Logger),
+        logStream: expect.any(Writable),
       }),
     );
   });
@@ -189,6 +189,7 @@ describe('fetch:cookiecutter', () => {
         },
         workingDir: '/input',
         envVars: { HOME: '/tmp' },
+        logStream: expect.any(Writable),
       }),
     );
   });
diff --git a/plugins/scaffolder-backend-module-cookiecutter/src/actions/fetch/cookiecutter.ts b/plugins/scaffolder-backend-module-cookiecutter/src/actions/fetch/cookiecutter.ts
index 5f7f91daab..269630817c 100644
--- a/plugins/scaffolder-backend-module-cookiecutter/src/actions/fetch/cookiecutter.ts
+++ b/plugins/scaffolder-backend-module-cookiecutter/src/actions/fetch/cookiecutter.ts
@@ -30,7 +30,7 @@ import { JsonObject, JsonValue } from '@backstage/types';
 import commandExists from 'command-exists';
 import fs from 'fs-extra';
 import path, { resolve as resolvePath } from 'path';
-import { Logger } from 'winston';
+import { PassThrough, Writable } from 'stream';
 import { examples } from './cookiecutter.examples';
 
 export class CookiecutterRunner {
@@ -57,14 +57,14 @@ export class CookiecutterRunner {
   public async run({
     workspacePath,
     values,
-    logger,
+    logStream,
     imageName,
     templateDir,
     templateContentsDir,
   }: {
     workspacePath: string;
     values: JsonObject;
-    logger: Logger;
+    logStream: Writable;
     imageName?: string;
     templateDir: string;
     templateContentsDir: string;
@@ -99,7 +99,7 @@ export class CookiecutterRunner {
       await executeShellCommand({
         command: 'cookiecutter',
         args: ['--no-input', '-o', intermediateDir, templateDir, '--verbose'],
-        logger,
+        logStream,
       });
     } else {
       if (this.containerRunner === undefined) {
@@ -116,6 +116,7 @@ export class CookiecutterRunner {
         // Set the home directory inside the container as something that applications can
         // write to, otherwise they will just fail trying to write to /
         envVars: { HOME: '/tmp' },
+        logStream,
       });
     }
 
@@ -246,10 +247,15 @@ export function createFetchCookiecutterAction(options: {
         _extensions: ctx.input.extensions,
       };
 
+      const logStream = new PassThrough();
+      logStream.on('data', chunk => {
+        ctx.logger.info(chunk.toString());
+      });
+
       // Will execute the template in ./template and put the result in ./result
       await cookiecutter.run({
         workspacePath: workDir,
-        logger: ctx.logger,
+        logStream,
         values: values,
         imageName: ctx.input.imageName,
         templateDir: templateDir,
diff --git a/plugins/scaffolder-backend-module-rails/src/actions/fetch/rails/index.test.ts b/plugins/scaffolder-backend-module-rails/src/actions/fetch/rails/index.test.ts
index 3ea3e01bef..c2d3ead6bb 100644
--- a/plugins/scaffolder-backend-module-rails/src/actions/fetch/rails/index.test.ts
+++ b/plugins/scaffolder-backend-module-rails/src/actions/fetch/rails/index.test.ts
@@ -35,7 +35,7 @@ import { ScmIntegrations } from '@backstage/integration';
 import { fetchContents } from '@backstage/plugin-scaffolder-node';
 import { createMockActionContext } from '@backstage/plugin-scaffolder-node-test-utils';
 import { resolve as resolvePath } from 'path';
-import { Logger } from 'winston';
+import { Writable } from 'stream';
 import { createFetchRailsAction } from './index';
 
 describe('fetch:rails', () => {
@@ -106,7 +106,7 @@ describe('fetch:rails', () => {
 
     expect(mockRailsTemplater.run).toHaveBeenCalledWith({
       workspacePath: mockContext.workspacePath,
-      logger: expect.any(Logger),
+      logStream: expect.any(Writable),
       values: mockContext.input.values,
     });
   });
@@ -122,7 +122,7 @@ describe('fetch:rails', () => {
 
     expect(mockRailsTemplater.run).toHaveBeenCalledWith({
       workspacePath: mockContext.workspacePath,
-      logger: expect.any(Logger),
+      logStream: expect.any(Writable),
       values: {
         ...mockContext.input.values,
         imageName: 'foo/rails-custom-image',
diff --git a/plugins/scaffolder-backend-module-rails/src/actions/fetch/rails/index.ts b/plugins/scaffolder-backend-module-rails/src/actions/fetch/rails/index.ts
index 223aeb19a2..a063ce0a5b 100644
--- a/plugins/scaffolder-backend-module-rails/src/actions/fetch/rails/index.ts
+++ b/plugins/scaffolder-backend-module-rails/src/actions/fetch/rails/index.ts
@@ -26,6 +26,7 @@ import fs from 'fs-extra';
 
 import { UrlReaderService } from '@backstage/backend-plugin-api';
 import { resolve as resolvePath } from 'path';
+import { PassThrough } from 'stream';
 import { examples } from './index.examples';
 import { RailsNewRunner } from './railsNewRunner';
 
@@ -218,10 +219,15 @@ export function createFetchRailsAction(options: {
         throw new Error(`Image ${imageName} is not allowed`);
       }
 
+      const logStream = new PassThrough();
+      logStream.on('data', chunk => {
+        ctx.logger.info(chunk.toString());
+      });
+
       // Will execute the template in ./template and put the result in ./result
       await templateRunner.run({
         workspacePath: workDir,
-        logger: ctx.logger,
+        logStream,
         values: { ...ctx.input.values, imageName },
       });
 
diff --git a/plugins/scaffolder-backend-module-rails/src/actions/fetch/rails/railsNewRunner.test.ts b/plugins/scaffolder-backend-module-rails/src/actions/fetch/rails/railsNewRunner.test.ts
index 3abbd24ace..c53f368516 100644
--- a/plugins/scaffolder-backend-module-rails/src/actions/fetch/rails/railsNewRunner.test.ts
+++ b/plugins/scaffolder-backend-module-rails/src/actions/fetch/rails/railsNewRunner.test.ts
@@ -30,7 +30,7 @@ jest.mock(
 import { ContainerRunner } from '@backstage/backend-common';
 import { createMockDirectory } from '@backstage/backend-test-utils';
 import path from 'path';
-import { Logger } from 'winston';
+import { PassThrough } from 'stream';
 import { RailsNewRunner } from './railsNewRunner';
 
 describe('Rails Templater', () => {
@@ -47,7 +47,7 @@ describe('Rails Templater', () => {
 
   describe('when running on docker', () => {
     it('should run the correct bindings for the volumes', async () => {
-      const logger = new Logger();
+      const logStream = new PassThrough();
       const values = {
         owner: 'angeliski',
         storePath: 'https://github.com/angeliski/rails-project',
@@ -65,7 +65,7 @@ describe('Rails Templater', () => {
       await templater.run({
         workspacePath: mockDir.path,
         values,
-        logger,
+        logStream,
       });
 
       expect(containerRunner.runContainer).toHaveBeenCalledWith({
@@ -78,11 +78,12 @@ describe('Rails Templater', () => {
           [path.join(mockDir.path, 'intermediate')]: '/output',
         },
         workingDir: '/input',
+        logStream: logStream,
       });
     });
 
     it('should use the provided imageName', async () => {
-      const logger = new Logger();
+      const logStream = new PassThrough();
       const values = {
         owner: 'angeliski',
         storePath: 'https://github.com/angeliski/rails-project',
@@ -100,7 +101,7 @@ describe('Rails Templater', () => {
       await templater.run({
         workspacePath: mockDir.path,
         values,
-        logger,
+        logStream,
       });
 
       expect(containerRunner.runContainer).toHaveBeenCalledWith(
@@ -111,7 +112,7 @@ describe('Rails Templater', () => {
     });
 
     it('should pass through the streamer to the run docker helper', async () => {
-      const logger = new Logger();
+      const stream = new PassThrough();
 
       const values = {
         owner: 'angeliski',
@@ -130,7 +131,7 @@ describe('Rails Templater', () => {
       await templater.run({
         workspacePath: mockDir.path,
         values,
-        logger,
+        logStream: stream,
       });
 
       expect(containerRunner.runContainer).toHaveBeenCalledWith({
@@ -143,11 +144,12 @@ describe('Rails Templater', () => {
           [path.join(mockDir.path, 'intermediate')]: '/output',
         },
         workingDir: '/input',
+        logStream: stream,
       });
     });
 
     it('update the template path to correct location', async () => {
-      const logger = new Logger();
+      const logStream = new PassThrough();
       const values = {
         owner: 'angeliski',
         storePath: 'https://github.com/angeliski/rails-project',
@@ -166,7 +168,7 @@ describe('Rails Templater', () => {
       await templater.run({
         workspacePath: mockDir.path,
         values,
-        logger,
+        logStream,
       });
 
       expect(containerRunner.runContainer).toHaveBeenCalledWith({
@@ -184,13 +186,14 @@ describe('Rails Templater', () => {
           [path.join(mockDir.path, 'intermediate')]: '/output',
         },
         workingDir: '/input',
+        logStream: logStream,
       });
     });
   });
 
   describe('when rails is available', () => {
     it('use the binary', async () => {
-      const logger = new Logger();
+      const stream = new PassThrough();
 
       const values = {
         owner: 'angeliski',
@@ -210,7 +213,7 @@ describe('Rails Templater', () => {
       await templater.run({
         workspacePath: mockDir.path,
         values,
-        logger,
+        logStream: stream,
       });
 
       expect(executeShellCommand).toHaveBeenCalledWith({
@@ -219,12 +222,12 @@ describe('Rails Templater', () => {
           'new',
           path.join(mockDir.path, 'intermediate', 'rails-project'),
         ]),
-        logger,
+        logStream: stream,
       });
     });
 
     it('update the template path to correct location', async () => {
-      const logger = new Logger();
+      const stream = new PassThrough();
 
       const values = {
         owner: 'angeliski',
@@ -245,7 +248,7 @@ describe('Rails Templater', () => {
       await templater.run({
         workspacePath: mockDir.path,
         values,
-        logger,
+        logStream: stream,
       });
 
       expect(executeShellCommand).toHaveBeenCalledWith({
@@ -256,14 +259,14 @@ describe('Rails Templater', () => {
           '--template',
           path.join(mockDir.path, './something.rb'),
         ]),
-        logger,
+        logStream: stream,
       });
     });
   });
 
   describe('when nothing was generated', () => {
     it('throws an error', async () => {
-      const logger = new Logger();
+      const stream = new PassThrough();
 
       mockDir.setContent({
         intermediate: {},
@@ -279,7 +282,7 @@ describe('Rails Templater', () => {
             name: 'rails-project',
             imageName: 'foo/rails-custom-image',
           },
-          logger,
+          logStream: stream,
         }),
       ).rejects.toThrow(/No data generated by rails/);
     });
diff --git a/plugins/scaffolder-backend-module-rails/src/actions/fetch/rails/railsNewRunner.ts b/plugins/scaffolder-backend-module-rails/src/actions/fetch/rails/railsNewRunner.ts
index 906c2e6404..fe2470eef8 100644
--- a/plugins/scaffolder-backend-module-rails/src/actions/fetch/rails/railsNewRunner.ts
+++ b/plugins/scaffolder-backend-module-rails/src/actions/fetch/rails/railsNewRunner.ts
@@ -20,7 +20,7 @@ import { JsonObject } from '@backstage/types';
 import commandExists from 'command-exists';
 import fs from 'fs-extra';
 import path from 'path';
-import { Logger } from 'winston';
+import { Writable } from 'stream';
 import {
   railsArgumentResolver,
   RailsRunOptions,
@@ -36,11 +36,11 @@ export class RailsNewRunner {
   public async run({
     workspacePath,
     values,
-    logger,
+    logStream,
   }: {
     workspacePath: string;
     values: JsonObject;
-    logger: Logger;
+    logStream: Writable;
   }): Promise<void> {
     const intermediateDir = path.join(workspacePath, 'intermediate');
     await fs.ensureDir(intermediateDir);
@@ -71,7 +71,7 @@ export class RailsNewRunner {
           `${intermediateDir}${path.sep}${name}`,
           ...arrayExtraArguments,
         ],
-        logger,
+        logStream,
       });
     } else {
       if (!imageName) {
@@ -96,6 +96,7 @@ export class RailsNewRunner {
         // Set the home directory inside the container as something that applications can
         // write to, otherwise they will just fail trying to write to /
         envVars: { HOME: '/tmp' },
+        logStream,
       });
     }